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 Post subject: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:23 pm 
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http://www.thornsoft.com/dist/beta75/ClipMate_7521_128.exe

This fixes the "see-through" ClipBar issue with Windows8.
The ClipBar now looks good in both Windows7:
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And Windows8:
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Of course, on Windows 8, the ClipBar shows up in the "desktop" mode, not the silly tile stuff.

Here is the fix list (stop reading when you get down to 7.3.14, which is the current official release)
http://www.thornsoft.com/relnotes.htm?rel=7.5.21

All registered 7.x users are welcome to test. The installer includes both the 32-bit and 64-bit ClipBars.

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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:09 pm 
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Chris,

And to think that I did not get a Christmas present for YOU. Thanks for the tweaking of a superlative program.

Hank
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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:30 am 
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Chris — Thank you so much for this revision of ClipMate. Running it now on Windows 8 64-bit.

The ClipBar on Taskbar, when ClipMate is not active, display with a Black background (looks 'pure' black) and is rather stark. When ClipMate is active, it displays with two black bars (rules, in desktop publishing parlance) above and below. Perhaps this a result of my Taskbar being arrayed Vertically?

Would it be possible for the ClipBar to render its background automatically as a solid or darker hue of the Taskbar itself? Or possibly make the background color an Option?

I know I shouldn't complain (and, really, this is a suggestionn rather than a complaint) given the time and effort to get the ClipBar back on 64-bit Windows at all …


Every good wish for the Holidays and for a prosperous 2013!


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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:19 pm 
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I am running Windows 8 Pro 64bit. My Clipbar is an icon with no clip material. Click on the left 1/2 brings up the Show ClipMate and the right 1/2 allows for a Collection selection. I do not see any of the present Clip. I might have enabled the Clipbar erroneously, but it just did the install with the Clipbar option checked.

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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:38 pm 
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Can you send me a screenshot, showing ClipMate itself on the screen (with a clip selected) and the ClipBar in the same shot? I'd like to see what you're seeing. support at thornsoft dot com.

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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:57 am 
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I upgraded hoping it would resolve an ongoing problem that I've had.
See "Sudden Big problem with Clipmate, DBISAM and BLOBPNG etc" .

I tried the Comprehensive DB repair and the "Restart with Repair" with this new version
but it hasn't helped.

My DB is large ( 4GB ), which I realize may be a problem.

Chris, any chance the new version will be able to handle DB's larger than 2GB ?



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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:19 am 
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All working fine now. :lol: The lack of the Clipbar working properly was because I had the taskbar locked. Windows 8 has so many new twists, I thought that would prevent auto-hide. Just too busy tweaking to pay attention. The auto-hide is in the 'properties' and not there. Unchecked the 'lock taskbar' and extended the bar.

Thanks to Chris Thornton for suggesting it.


Hank wrote:
I am running Windows 8 Pro 64bit. My Clipbar is an icon with no clip material. Click on the left 1/2 brings up the Show ClipMate and the right 1/2 allows for a Collection selection. I do not see any of the present Clip. I might have enabled the Clipbar erroneously, but it just did the install with the Clipbar option checked.

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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:46 am 
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Hi Chris,
Wonderful news!

Many, many thanks!

Going to give it a try.

later:
Windows 7 x64 installation went fine.
I have Clipmate-program installed on a different partition (F:) and the database is located even on another drive.


btw: I have this taskbar button
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which is what I actually hád before and which is, in fact, fine with me.
Out of curiosity, wonder how to get 'your version' of the taskbar button though.


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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:11 pm 
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I have been using ClipMate Explorer v7.5.21.128 beta since December 12th and it has been working flawlessly. I have been copying primarily text and file references, but also URLs. I have been storing these clips in several collections and have been using the PowerPaste feature with the InBox collection. In short, I've been using the new ClipMate beta in the same way that I used the old v7.3.15.225 production release and have yet to come across any anomalies. I did have the ClipBar, an apparent point of emphasis in the beta release, active for a while and can attest that it seems to work as designed now in the 64-bit version of the Windows 7 operating system. I did try to copy and paste a few Unicode characters from the Arial Unicode MS font, but this beta release of ClipMate doesn't seem to handle them any differently than the production version did. In short, I'm quite pleased with the beta. :D Thanks for giving me the opportunity to test it, Chris.


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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:14 pm 
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I keep my data on another drive. I wonder if the ClipMate icon is like what I had. Chris told me to unlock the taskbar. That allowed me to 'pull' the Clipbar out.



mrwul wrote:
Hi Chris,
Wonderful news!

Many, many thanks!

Going to give it a try.

later:
Windows 7 x64 installation went fine.
I have Clipmate-program installed on a different partition (F:) and the database is located even on another drive.


btw: I have this taskbar button
Image

which is what I actually hád before and which is, in fact, fine with me.
Out of curiosity, wonder how to get 'your version' of the taskbar button though.


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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:45 am 
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Thanks!

Indeed, that did the trick.

That aside, upon reconsideration and strictly personal, I am not sure whether it will add anything over the existing button.
It takes space on my taskbar, often being pretty filled up, so I will stick to the 'old' button, which is good enough for me.

Nonetheless thanks for the tip.

@chris
Things are working fine with me. Have not countered any issues (although, in fact, I did not expect there would be any)
(Win7 X64)

thanks
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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:00 pm 
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Not sure where you are in the beta cycle, and maybe it's too late for this. Note, I have not tried the beta. The things I am saying below relate to the last release version.

But there are a few things I have been longing for for years and hope there may be an opportunity to implement them while there still a chance... some of these I have mentioned here over the years some not.

1. Highlighting misspelled words instead of or as well as underlining. It just makes it so much easier to spot the mistakes. A nice bright highlight color makes it a slam dunk to see the mistakes.

2. I get constant crashes when doing searches on clip text. I'd say CM crashes about 1 out of every 3 or 4 times I do a search. Am I the only one who has reported this? Windows XP SP3. This is probably my biggest CM annoyance.

3. I wish there was a way to temporarily and simply disable autocapture without having to toggle it with F12. For example, if you use a menu command "copy" in some program and you hold down the CTRL key while invoking the command, the clip will not be captured even though auto capture is enabled. When you release the CTRL key, autocapture would be active again.

Even better would be to have the reverse option available as well. Autocapture is disabled unless you press a key while invoking the copy command. Both options are very useful.

There are SO MANY times when I don't want to add a clip to my database but I don't want to have to turn autocapture off and then on again by having to press a button before and after. It's a real pain having to constantly clean out my clips because I have captured so much stuff that I didn't want to capture.

In the past you weren't too keen on this idea... I think you said it couldn't be done. But I have faith that you are so much older and smarter now! :D

Thanks for considering Chris. :!:

I mean just smarter!!! ... ***not*** older!!!! :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:46 pm 
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I just go though my INBOX which is my default capture area and weed it out for clips I don't want. Done regularly it can be kept quite manageable.

I'd hate to see it be a default 'off' as I find that the Windows clipboard can lose items.

I'll admit that, unchecked, the database can grow quite large. I have a "boilerplate" directory for all of the stock replies that I need for Moderating a list for motorhome owners. Those for new sign-ups, standard questions that come up a lot, etc.

Even that area gets a periodic review.

LotsOClips wrote:
3. I wish there was a way to temporarily and simply disable autocapture without having to toggle it with F12. For example, if you use a menu command "copy" in some program and you hold down the CTRL key while invoking the command, the clip will not be captured even though auto capture is enabled. When you release the CTRL key, autocapture would be active again.

Even better would be to have the reverse option available as well. Autocapture is disabled unless you press a key while invoking the copy command. Both options are very useful.

There are SO MANY times when I don't want to add a clip to my database but I don't want to have to turn autocapture off and then on again by having to press a button before and after. It's a real pain having to constantly clean out my clips because I have captured so much stuff that I didn't want to capture.
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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:12 pm 
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Nothing I am suggesting would change the way you use capturing now. You would still be able to do it the exact same way.

Currently Auto Capture can be enabled or disabled with either a menu command or a hotkey (F12). That needn't change.

What I am suggesting is to add an additional option to temporarily disable (if it is enabled) or enable (if it is disabled) Auto Capture simply by depressing a key while you invoke the copy command (such as the CTRL key). Then you let the key up and the Auto Capture setting goes back to what it was before you depressed it.

The CTRL key may not be the right choice since CTRL-C is the copy command, but some other key is probably better.

The point of it is that when I am working and concentrating on things, I have many clips I want to preserve and many I don't want to preserve. I want to have a simpler way to easily include or exclude a capture into the database every time I do one. Having to press F12 before the capture, then again after it, is harder than simply depressing a key while I do the capture. It's one of those small things, that you need to do a million times so even a tiny improvement creates a significant increase in productivity. It is less of a break in concentration. And it saves a lot of time deleting clips I don't need later.

It won't take any functionality away or require any action on your part to do things exactly the same way you do now, it will only add something you can either use or not use. So no need to worry about that.


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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:35 pm 
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First of all, THANKS so much for updating ClipMate! Just got a Win 8 laptop and was dreading the fact that it might not work on it. So how exciting to see that we've finally got the ClipBar for 64-bit.

Works beautifully on Win 7 64-bit; on Win 8, when CM is off, the ClipBar is a black stripe. While that is not the most horrible thing, it would be great if it could either be translucent and adjust to the desktop color like Win 7 or have the ability to select the color as an option...

I know that you are finishing up on the mechanics right now, but when you get around to the aesthetics, please keep this in mind.

Thanks again!


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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:25 pm 
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Has there been any progress here?


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 Post subject: Re: ClipMate 7.5.21 Beta
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:44 am 
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Well yeah, please see this topic:
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=4641
it's a fix for the ugly ClipBar on Windows Classic theme.

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